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zekeisaszekedoes · 17-02-2011, 16:36

I think perhaps VM staff are getting too defensive here, and trying to shoot down all the negative criticism the Super Hub has been getting. IMO, that just confirms they know about the many problems.

I'd have no problem sourcing my own kit (seperate modem and router) if VM would allow it. In fact they could say what it requires and it could be up to you to use their provided Super Hub or shop around for something better that can connect to the cable network in the way VM want. Just because they're a big business looking to cut costs doesn't mean they can't accomodate some of the "indie" values smaller providers like AAISP pride themselves on. In fact, from a business point of view it makes sense to do this to stay competitive! Maybe some sort of "backbone only" deal where the fiber optic network is what you use, and provide your own kit instead of being supplied it. Plus, no technical support on the LAN side etc.

The reason people want this is EXACTLY the same reason VM want the Super Hub rolled out so quickly... less problems for tech support, much easier for the home user. Both sides win and don't waste time wrangling with situationally inferior gear and/or bickering.

Personally even if the Super Hub was made perfect it still wouldn't do what I want on the routing side, which is why I'm looking forward to the bridge mode. I need advanced routing features and I need them to work all the time, including stuff like IPv6 tunnelling support while I wait for VM to roll that out natively.

Shame the testers have to wait another five or so weeks, but I'd love to do it and provide detailed notes on what works and what doesn't. Anything to stop other more tech savvy broadband customers having the headaches I've had with the Super Hub.

17-02-2011, 16:36	#59
zekeisaszekedoes Permanently Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hampshire, UK Age: 42 Services: 30Mb Broadband (XL), 2TB TiVo (M+), Samsung Galaxy Ace (M), POTS Landline (M). Posts: 823	Re: VM finally post news on bridge mode - superhub I think perhaps VM staff are getting too defensive here, and trying to shoot down all the negative criticism the Super Hub has been getting. IMO, that just confirms they know about the many problems. I'd have no problem sourcing my own kit (seperate modem and router) if VM would allow it. In fact they could say what it requires and it could be up to you to use their provided Super Hub or shop around for something better that can connect to the cable network in the way VM want. Just because they're a big business looking to cut costs doesn't mean they can't accomodate some of the "indie" values smaller providers like AAISP pride themselves on. In fact, from a business point of view it makes sense to do this to stay competitive! Maybe some sort of "backbone only" deal where the fiber optic network is what you use, and provide your own kit instead of being supplied it. Plus, no technical support on the LAN side etc. The reason people want this is EXACTLY the same reason VM want the Super Hub rolled out so quickly... less problems for tech support, much easier for the home user. Both sides win and don't waste time wrangling with situationally inferior gear and/or bickering. Personally even if the Super Hub was made perfect it still wouldn't do what I want on the routing side, which is why I'm looking forward to the bridge mode. I need advanced routing features and I need them to work all the time, including stuff like IPv6 tunnelling support while I wait for VM to roll that out natively. Shame the testers have to wait another five or so weeks, but I'd love to do it and provide detailed notes on what works and what doesn't. Anything to stop other more tech savvy broadband customers having the headaches I've had with the Super Hub.