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Originally Posted by The_Gunslinger
Thing is it's not just
It's a lot more than that, and more than here and there, as they are spending hours streaming high def material every day, downlaoders don't always sit there constantly downloading huge amounts !
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Average utilisation is still pretty low. If these people were spending hours streaming they wouldn't be paying for TV and wouldn't be able to grab that stuff at full speed anyway as they'd have the STM hammer brought down on them.
Most people still run on 10Mbps services, you just can't stream HD for hours on end on that service.
Virgin know the types and amounts of traffic traversing their network. People smacking Usenet for 300GB/month are still by a mile heavier users than Joe Average with their XBox who does 30GB/month.
The capacity crunch is because more people are using more, sure, but people downloading heavily are still big time outliers. 100 people using 10GB/month more is the same 1TB increase as 1 person using 1TB/month more, yes, however they are paying up to 100 times more for the pleasure.
So long as people are paying for what they are using or costs are coming down sufficiently that people are paying for their increased video usage it's a non-issue. Outlying users do not and have never paid appropriate rates for their usage.
We could go to pay per GB though if you think that would be fairer?
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
History suggests on your latter point its isp's underestimating.
O2 traffic shape very heavily and then capped their unlimited product at 30gig and they still extremely congested.
Plusnet also had no noticeable relief when they started shaping it is only when they added capacity afterwards things started getting back under control for them.
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Plusnet themselves quite strongly disagree with your second comment. It should be remembered that Plusnet started shaping in 2005, at that time P2P was a much larger proportion of traffic than now. No You Tube, no XBox Live HD streaming, no iPlayer, much less streaming, no question.
Your first applies to O2 Access only, shaping isn't even switched on on O2's LLU network which covers the overwhelming majority of their customers.