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Originally Posted by Henkesghost
Great post mersey70
The only part I disagree with is that obviously the people supposedly in the know post what's "coming soon" in good faith generally are proved to be completely inaccurate. This frustrates people couplef with the fact that virgin tell us nothing about improvements on the tv side Looks like Sky and Virgin will specialise in different areas. Just don't understand why some on here seem to have this blind you cannot criticise virgin, sky are evil mentality, it's both childish and pathetic IMHO.
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Personally, I find that to be a gross exaggeration and a distortion of reality. Yes, quite often, in the past, people have posted their own opinions or postulated theories but phrased them as though they were fact or at least in a way that some others interpreted them as such. This hasn't been happening so much recently thankfully.
Those members who have offered genuine inside information have generally been reliable in what they post or cautious about how they post it. What others do with the information after that is usually where the problems arise! In the few cases where information has proved not to be accurate or the 'prediction' has materialised later than forecast, the difference in outcome or delivery time has usually been small.
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Originally Posted by mersey70
In fairness most things that don't happen at all were merely rumours from people who are not staff, that seems to have died down in the last few months. What has been announced by VM will happen, when though I don't know. I certainly agree that some people can be very biased where VM and Sky are concerned. I don't get that myself as they are both merely service providers, much like utility companies in my eyes. I personally couldn't care less who provides my services so long as I get what I want at the right price which right now is VM. If I held stock in either I might have a different view but I dont, if I was staff I might have a different view but i'm not.
If we accept VM for what they are it would be better but VM are not Sky and never will be, Mr Berkett seems to get that and the same applies the other way around. There's pluses and minuses on both sides
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Those are some of the very reasons one does care who provides their services be it gas, electricity, telephone, mobile, broadband or TV. So it's a little redundant to say I don't care who supplies my services as long as I have chosen the correct supplier for me.
I've seen that "I don't care who" statement several times before on here and I think it was from different people not just from you but, of course, you do care where you get your services from for the very reasons you have stated yourself and on which basis you choose from where you get them.
It's like saying "I don't care which brand of petrol I buy as long as it's the cheapest in my area, it doesn't cause my engine to knock, I get my loyalty card points and they stock my favourite pasty in the forecourt shop". Those criteria pretty much dictate exactly where you will purchase your fuel especially with the 'value added' pasty feature! (Let's refer to that as 'pasty-on-demand' shall we?
) The petrol from different stations in an area generally comes from the same depot and is produced by one oil company but the additives that the tanker driver puts in when he fills up are where the difference usually shows.
I used to work in the BP building in Hemel Hempstead. You should have seen what my desk looked like when the Buncefield depot across the road when kaboom! 