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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq
This isn't all that unusual in the UK ISP world. Many of Virgin's competitors operate in the same way. Many ISPs include a DSL modem + router combo in their packages, some don't allow you to use the one other than that supplied (some of these can be gotten around by end-user hacks). O2/Be, often considered one of the better DSL ISPs, don't offer a bridge/bypass mode on their modem/router combos (but users can hack around this) either, in fact their routers don't even support DMZ or fixed DHCP allocations.
Also I think you're using the term "UPnP" incorrectly here. UPnP is a specific networking protocol that allows detection of other network devices on a LAN, such as a HTPC detecting a media server, and for communication between them. Often it's disabled by default as it's a security flaw. It doesn't pertain to a router working out of the box.
Mind you I previously said most of the initial feedback about the Superhub was predominantly positive but the last few pages seem to be all negative comments. Clearly the device hasn't gotten worse in the course of two weeks, it seems a different group of users are becoming more vocal now...
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OK I could've worded it better but I think you get the drift.
As to only now users speaking out, there's plenty of complaints over on VM's forum as well as the few here. No doubt there's other forums with the same type of complaints (remembering of course you quite often get the same/similar people using the same forums.).
There was plenty said about no bridge mode before it was even released (months).