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Originally Posted by pip08456
The Superhub on release was like VM saying if you want our services this is what you have to use. We are not interested in how your network is set up you have to do it our way.
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This isn't all that unusual in the UK ISP world. Many of Virgin's competitors operate in the same way. Many ISPs include a DSL modem + router combo in their packages, some don't allow you to use the one other than that supplied (some of these can be gotten around by end-user hacks). O2/Be, often considered one of the better DSL ISPs, don't offer a bridge/bypass mode on their modem/router combos (but users can hack around this) either, in fact their routers don't even support DMZ or fixed DHCP allocations.
Also I think you're using the term "UPnP" incorrectly here. UPnP is a specific networking protocol that allows detection of other network devices on a LAN, such as a HTPC detecting a media server, and for communication between them. Often it's disabled by default as it's a security flaw. It doesn't pertain to a router working out of the box.
Mind you I previously said most of the initial feedback about the Superhub was predominantly positive but the last few pages seem to be all negative comments. Clearly the device hasn't gotten worse in the course of two weeks, it seems a different group of users are becoming more vocal now...