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Originally Posted by alwaysabear
My daughter had BT vision ,but she was not impressed as there was so little content when she had it two years ago, she is now on VM. So again we comeback to content ,content,content, that is what the average customer wants.
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Personally I found the OD content on Vision to be better than VM as it seemed to get refreshed more but of course linear content was limited to Freeview and ESPN although this has improved since I left with Sky Sports 1 and 2 being added although they have lost Channel 5 OD now.
But you are absolutely correct in my opinion. It isn't fibre, or satellite, or ADSL, or Sky Plus or even Tivo that wins susbcribers.
It is the programming that the particular person is looking for that sways them to one platform or another, and always has.
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic
This is why VM's TiVo will do well... they have a lot of good content, On Demand and HD, plus all the little extras that TiVo brings.
It's a good mix.
Plus have a look at the results at the top of the page... only a tiny amount *may* leave VM for Sky Atlantic. the poll speak for itself. 
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Again I go back to my comments earlier, I doubt many users of this forum are typical of the average VM subscriber. There is a staggering bias at times almost to the point of hatred towards Sky, the subscriber numbers simply don't back that up. How many of those votes were placed by VM staff?
Have a look at what many people are saying on DS or indeed the VM forums, it isn't anywhere near as clear cut as that small poll you refer to.
And by your own admission DF only around a quarter of VM customers seem to require V+. A V+ box which has been around for many, many years and is WAY cheaper than Tivo. Why do you think they are going to shell out a few hundred pounds, sign a new contract and pay an additional sub when the vast majority of customers don't even seem to need V+, probably because of the excellent catch up services.
V HD with Tivo priced smartly might be a different kettle of fish to these people altogether. If 3/4 of VM's customer base currently don't require any PVR whatsoever why on earth would you think they need a 1TB PVR? I do need a PVR, I certainly don't need a 1TB PVR though.
Which goes back to what I said to you, it will be a niche product until it is the de facto platform and even then the majority of STB's will almost certainly be non PVR's unless the price drastically reduces, as will the 1TB Sky box. It simply isn't required by most people as your own V+ subscriber numbers prove.