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Old 01-01-2011, 17:23   #653
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
Not really - we don't just live in a democracy. We live in a modern Western liberal democracy. That means politicians are not supposed go around using their five-year lease on power to make wholesale, mandatory changes on the lifestyles of citizens. Criminalizing a widely enjoyed and historic pastime was counter to almost every convention and tradition of our Parliament, which is why it took such a vast amount of Parliamentary time to get it into law.
Well it's as just as well they considered all of that when they banned dog fighting, bear and badger baiting and cock fighting, isn't it.

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
I'm not being patronising - I'm pointing out a logical inconsistency in your position. You accept that trapping and releasing farmyard rats is impractical, but that simply underlines the inconsistency in your argument. How do you balance your compassion for animals feeling pain with that impracticality?

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I do read the other posts on here, and that's why I am aware of your scarcely concealed joy at getting one over on those you perceive to be from the upper classes. Please don't try to use the political sympathies of other anti-hunt posters in this thread as a fig leaf to disguise your personal prejudice.
Really? Such as where? I don't think I have written anything about class (apart maybe a little joke here and there and I can't remember that either).

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Re 'innocent': please give more detail on your understanding of the concepts of guilt and innocence as applied to non-human species.
Innocent = without guilt, undeserving of action taken.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy View Post
No because they are twice as likely to be on a hunt where a fox is killed, in fact I am sure I remember hearing one hunt killed as many foxes on its first day of hunting once the ban was brought in than it did in the entire previous year...
Seems to me that the ripping of foxes to death was inefficient.

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Originally Posted by martyh View Post
Interesting turn of phrase from the master of hounds in Daddy's link
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It's pest control now. It's not hunting as it used to be."
So, it wasn't pest control before, despite their usual excuses.
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