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Originally Posted by sniper007

Not with an integrated cable modem all in one housing that will work on the Virgin network. That is the point in the superhub. Nobody is suggesting it is better than router X. The interest in the new super hub is because it is the first time Virgin have brought out an all in one modem/router and for a first bash, it looks to be a surprisingly good bit of kit even for "power" users, since it features just enough management features to get by for the majority of said power users.

Completely disagree.

First off, this is not the first time Virgin have brought out an all-in-one modem/router. The standard (non-super) Hub was out before, and it was a disaster.

The ability to minimize space and wires and power consumption having it all in one housing is also very welcome for many people. For me, the introduction of an integrated gigabit switch was a very wise move. Some people run a virgin modem, wireless router AND a gigabit switch. OK, so you can get wireless routers with integrated gigabit switches, but you do tend to pay more for them.

You can still get a router with integrated gigabit switches, simultaneous dual-band wireless, a USB port for file/printer sharing, and full support for custom firmware for LESS than you're paying VM for the Superhub (if paying for the Superhub)

As for space, I don't care how much space it saves if it doesn't do anything useful.

Now from Virgin, you can get this new super hub that does it all and to be honest I would be willing to sacrifice a bit of performance and features in order to just use the super hub unit. The fact of the matter is, there is no trade off with it. The only bad thing so far mentioned is the SPI service which will be fixed with firmware.

There's a huge amount of tradeoff. Maybe you can live without it, some "power users" can't. For one, no custom firmware. Which means no flexibility. Can't run servers on it. Can't run VPN on it. Can't run DDNS on it. Can't run WDS on it. Can't run a WOL daemon on it. Can't run custom QOS engines on it. No bandwidth monitoring. No usage monitoring.

No simultaneous dual-band. Which means either my phone can connect at full performance or my laptop, not both.

No USB port, so no multi-homing or backup connection via 3G.

I think a lot of people will instantly dismiss the superhub because they like to run their networks the way they currently do and will just pass the superhub off as more VM tat. That would be a mistake as so far it does seem perfectly adequate for a lot of peoples needs.

Not for my needs.

So like I said, if you're going to spend £75 on a wireless router/gigabit switch there are far better options than paying it to VM for the Superhub. Plus if you bought your own it'd still work if/when you switch to another ISP.