thanks to everyone who has helped in this thread, it is appreciated even if I dont come across that way.
my new adsl isp is online today, sycing at almost 2 meg higher than I did on ukonline although upload is down on speed. The new isp isnt quite living up to easynet's excellent network for jitter, seems to hover from 1-5ms mostly around 1-2ms but that is fine significantly better than VM, speeds fine on it.
So I will have VM until end of jan although may be earlier as I got warned since its free it can go off at any point in the month. It was useful for dusk hours bulk downloading and during sept for everything
but thats history now so hopefully others in LE3 wont suffer as badly as I have done.
If anyone here wants to test out my connection and knows how to use unix command line PM me, and I can give you access to a freebsd vm I have setup on the connection.