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Originally Posted by martyh
Don't you see that as a bit of problem ?
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Ah, do you not understand logic for what it truly is ? Not surprising as most people do not.
Think outside the box. Lose the preconditioning for a moment.
When you base something, on something else, which is itself based upon something else, do you know what you have?
Often times, you've "Lost all context" - is what you have.
Its fine in mathematics, but in Law and topical issues it just creates a mess.
Logic is used for mere convenience, to simplify things - but if logic is used when a situation cannot be further simplified then problems get created.
This is why it is possible in Law (for instance) for someone to be sent to prison for a minor offense, but yet someone else can be let off with community service for murder. But when you stand back and see the whole picture for what it is; you see the madness.
It all boils down to LOGIC. Its best to steer clear of it, and just see a situation for what it truly is, and that doesn't involve a logic sequence.
I suggest to steer clear of labels too, especially grey area labels such as "riot". By using suck labels, the grey becomes black (by default) and the process continues. Labels often lead to other assumptions being made, and eventually to lack of context.
Just look at the religious debates for some fine examples there.
"If god is onimpotent, then can he create a stone so heavy that he cannot lift it?"; therefore God cannot exist.
What we had at the last demo was 20,000 people, a minority of people bent on violence. Some were students, some were not. Some police instigating violence, and some at the receiving end. Some biases reporting, some non-biased reporting.
Thats what it was, and thats all it was.
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
bbbbut that fits your definition of rioting 
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