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Originally Posted by Stuart
Do you know, I am staggered. I have not seen one of the members who have criticised the police actually criticise those rioters who committed violence. This makes me think that they aren't (despite Sparkle's protestations to the contrary earlier) really that interested in the plight of any current or future students, more in using it the students plight as an excuse to criticise the Police.
I am no massive fan of the Police (I believe that when the Police do wrong they should be punished), but I am sickened by this hijaking of a legitimate reason for protest by various people to further their own ends.
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Who's "they"?
Are you genuinely implying that my only involvment with this movement (despite the many years I've already been involved in peaceful protest on this issue, and only this issue) is to attack the police ?
Is that honestly the conclusion you've come to, despite everything that's been said?

Please tell me I've misunderstood.
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Actually, on second thought - it doesn't really matter. Its clear where I stand on this issue, and my interests do not lie with the police. They are a non-entity as far as I'm conderned. The politicians make the rules, the police just enforce them. No philosophy and no thinking required from them. They're just uniformed henchmen of the aristocracy, paid to follow orders.
So naturally, I'm more interested in seeing some common sense in parliament (for once) - which would do this country wonders.
Regardless of which side of the fence any of you find yourselves, the fact remains that there WILL be more protests.
There WILL be more violence, and it looks like this is indeed turning into a winter of discontent. If the trade unions get involved (as it looks they might) this is really going to kick off to a magnitude not seen in this country for at least a generation.
So assuming the above, what next? If this is the reality, how do we best adjust to it? Moan about it?
I suggest lets make some good of it. Teach these lying politicians a lesson they won't forget for a long time. For instance, we could implement a revolutionary change to the government system that will ensure ministers are accountable (to the public) for their actions even AFTER election time.
Its clear our system of government is dated, and need of change.
Change that will not come from within the government itself, they cannot be trusted to "self regulate". Perhaps the power is almost in reach to finally turn this country into the democracy is was always destined to become.
I don't wish to see anyone get hurt, but I think it's pertinent to remember that people's lives are being ruined under the current system, and that's what must stop. So, to achieve that goal - what is the price worth paying?