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Old 20-12-2010, 17:33   #783
martyh
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Re: Students Rioting in London.

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Originally Posted by Sparkle View Post
I agree that sometimes that's the case, however many degrees require more work than a full time job. I don't think it's fair to tar them all with the same brush.

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i don't believe i have ,that certainly wasn't the intention .My son is just entering the system and i will make damn sure he will be working as hard as he can

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In my opinion, university education is a necessity of society. Everyone benefits from education. Just imagine what life would be like without technology and modern medicine ? It would be like being back in the stone age. In fact, we've always had an equivalent of many of the professions we have today. Professions such as merchants, soldiers, bankers, salesman, etc - even going back thousands of years. The main difference is the education/knowledge base.
It is a fallacy to think that in order to gain a good job with a good salary you will have to go through the university system .A lot of students are under the misguided belief that gaining a degree is a shortcut to a high paid job ,granted we need professionals that will need to go to a university but it should not be used as an extension to everyone's education ,i repeat my earlier statement ..too many people go to university


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I think that's a good idea in principle, but in practise it could be difficult to put into effect. I think what is more likely to happen, is that we'll be importing more of our talent in the years to come. Other countries are investing more in education, so its inevitable that we'll fall behind.
I disagree ,it would be quite simple to deduct money from employers who have graduates working for them .A company would have to pay a percentage of the debt whilst that graduate is with the company .if the graduate moves on then the next company picks up the debt

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He may not be right all the time, but I agree with a lot of what he says. I completely agree with him when he mentions about the government not being held accountable for its actions for 4 years after every election, and about the similarity between the different parties for important issues. Labour introduced fees, the Tories increased them....Very true.
Labour introduced them to enable more people to go to university ,to stop it being so elitist ,the present government increased them because the previous government got us into so much debt paying for the ideals only they thought we needed ,by that i mean ,i am not sure that we needed so many people to go to unuversity in the first place ,they should have concentrated on trades ,apprentiships rather than worthless degrees
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