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Originally Posted by Chris
I'll take that baton if I may
Communities and interest groups have been pressing for their shared outlook to be adopted by wider society pretty much forever - from the suffragettes and post-1960s feminism through racial equality and sexual orientation discrimination.
People press for their ideas and values to be widely adopted because they believe in the cause - they are convinced that what they believe in is good for wider society as a whole. They can, and should be allowed to, 'push' for their ideals to be adopted. And as we live in a free society, that society may over a period of time accept or reject those ideals.
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A fair and reasoned comment - others note.
And I accept what you say, and to a point agree with it.
But what I object to, are people who try and tell me what
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is good for wider society as a whole
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where, in my opinion, their values are neither qualified or welcomed.
But because they are a large group i.e. church, society,community etc they think they have the mandate to be our moral compass. This is dangerous, again in my opinion.
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They can, and should be allowed to, 'push' for their ideals to be adopted
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In so far as, if they do indeed obatin support from the masses and do indeed obtain a mandate and then lobby government to have laws introduced - fine.
But not by influencing the media, or applying pressure in other ways so that their views are brought in via the back door.