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Old 12-11-2010, 00:05   #257
Chrysalis
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Re: Unemployed could be forced to do compulsory manual labour

I have provided proof that there is 'plans' to use private companies paid on a results basis for getting claimants classified as unfit or partially fit for work into work.

The atos stuff is tougher.

But at the end of the day as I already said not one person here has shown proof on people been workshy, fraudsters and the like. They have simply accepted what they have been told. It seems what you telling me is because its someone who is in a profession then accusations against them are somehow more serious than an accusation against a claimant.

All documents I have seen are offline and I dont have ready access to, the people who would have made the decision to take things further such as taking legal action against someone like atos origin chose not to do so. The primary concern is getting people their benefits and winning appeals. Also understand I have never directly accused doctors of fraudelently lieing on reports, I said that there are reports been changed post medical and incorrect information reported regarding claimant's capabilties. In situations where the appeal has been won and the DWP backed down on these reports, it typically gets played down.

When I have hours spare (which I probably will need) I will look into online evidence of atos origin, until then its a take it or leave it. Its a shame you not so agressive in persuing evidence from the DWP and government on their own claims such as.

5 billion lost to benefit fraud each year.
majority of incapacity benefit claimants capable of work.

The reason evidence is hard to come by is because atos origin are protected from freedom of information requests. In effect the only way possible is either due to a leak or spying.
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