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Old 11-11-2010, 09:35   #231
RizzyKing
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Re: Unemployed could be forced to do compulsory manual labour

Chrysalis has taken a lot of flak for what he has said and while i cannot claim to have seen it in dozens of cases i can confirm some of what he says during the time i did voluntary work for a group that represented disabled people on benefit. I can also say that of the fifteen appeals i went too with clients not once did the atos doctor that signed the person off benefit turn upto the appeal they submitted a written statement and a representative of atos was there at the appeal.

All fifteen appeals were found in favour of the claimant with some quite stinging comments made on the conduct of atos. Now here is the thing that got me as i always understood it these things were on record and could be viewed yet not once have i been able to find a single mention of any of those appeals even though i know they happened as i was there.

Also in that office we saw other ways people were taken off benefit including an eighty year old woman completely riddled with arthritis to the point she could barely move. Her family had paid for her house to be adapted as much as was possible and had basically moved her completely downstairs as she was no longer physically capable of climbing the stairs. She had a private care worker go visit her six times a day. When the atos doctor came to assess her he asked her to climb the stairs something she couldn't do and she explained to him and refused on the grounds it would cause her great distress and pain he put her down as being uncooperative with the assessment.

Within the rules which they operate under there are many ways for them to quicken the assessment process and recommend a person be taken off a medical benefit which on the surface seem all well and legitimate. I ceased working for that group because although they had plenty of proof of misdoing on the part of atos they were simply content to win the appeals when i felt they should have made a bigger deal and pushed the issue of the conduct of atos more then they did. I couldn't personally do it as i was bound by confidentiality and the only way i could have gotten the proof would have been to have stolen it which i wouldn't do on a personal level but i believe that anything i had stolen also couldn't have been used.

I would dearly love to know why this issue hasn't been taken up by the media and why atos havn't been held to account for some fo their actions and while i could repeat many things on here that i have heard from people i trust i won't as technically it would be rumour. Something is rotten in the system and does need resolving for the benefit of all but how that comes about i am not sure.
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