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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
Maggy as someone married to an ex forces server you know damn well i wouldn't mention even if i could and you know why as well  . Daniel you can continue to believe if you like that it never yields reliable information but again answer me this if it never does why has the practice continued for so long. Torture in media terms is very simplistic waterboarding is the favourite thing for them to pick up on but in the terms of the field that is a crude completely unreliable way of obtaining information and thats why americans love it.
Because they don't care so much about real information more that they can report anything as real information obtained from someone they regard as an enemy. Bit like the vietnam war and their body counts which were so massively exaggeratted i cannot remeber who it was but someone added them all up and if they were true there would have been hardly anyone left in north vietnam. This is a complicated field that has many approaches some of them subtle and effective others not so subtle and effective. But the people involved are trained believe it or not to spot information that is genuine from information that is being given to stop whatever procedure is happening at the time. Add to that the vast vast majority of prisoners\captives will never be subjected to any form whatsoever and it is hardly a widespread popular practice. |
Nobody, bar Bush himself, appears to believe 100% that any information gleaned by the use of torture saved British lives.
The head of MI6 is very recently quoted as saying
"Torture is illegal and abhorrent under any circumstances, and we have nothing whatsoever to do with it. If we know or believe action by us will lead to torture taking place, we're required by UK and international law to avoid that action. And we do, even though that allows the terrorist activity to go ahead."
To assert that torture is
"hardly a widespread popular practice" is a bit silly given this ongoing allegations in relation to same. Take for example this weeks developments involving over 200 allegations against
British military personnel.
Endorsing or encouraging the use of torture is a very dangerous and foolhardy thing to do.
What position can you possibly adopt thereafter when the shoe is, inevitably, on the other foot?