Quote:
Originally Posted by RizzyKing
Why does there have to be a natural assumption that this will not be welcomed by the unemployed and in doing that are some of you not doing them a disservice. As i stated before sometimes the biggest obstacle to getting back into work can be the period you are seen by an employer to have been sitting doing nothing this scheme if done correctly will help remedy that or at the very least remove that excuse from potential employers. I do have my concerns with some of what the coalition and certainly some of it's members have in mind in other areas but that is something for another thread. This if done right (thats the key point here will it be done right) does not have to be a bad thing and could be a very good thing for long term unemployed who want to return to work. Sadly for the career claimant i don't think it will make a figs difference they will simply avoid it by going onto some form of medical benefit for a while and play that cycle of jsa, esa kicked off back onto jsa for a period and back onto esa.
|
Would you welcome it if on the dole?
---------- Post added at 15:37 ---------- Previous post was at 15:35 ----------
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre
The sooner we go for sensationalist posters that refuse to listen to the facts, thrive on hearsay, have trouble understanding two sides of a discussion and are sometimes just plain ignorant..............the better.
|
one thing for sure the government isnt revealing the facts, osbourne has already broken the new minister code.
---------- Post added at 15:40 ---------- Previous post was at 15:37 ----------
Quote:
Originally Posted by peanut
My take on it is that I don't know what their purpose is. They say it will help people, yet to me I can't see them doing anything to actually help anyone (apart from themselves). This seems like a way of doing something about a problem without thinking it through.
I'm practically housebound, yet when they put me on JSA, I'd be expected to sign on (even that will be a struggle) and maybe have to do this work thing (this course or the real thing). What I don't understand is there are people on here that have said they won't, wouldn't or shouldn't put the sick to work, but if the sick are deemed fit enough (by ATOS) to get off ESA and onto JS then what's to argue. You're either sick or you ain't, or in their eyes there's no such person that is sick or ill if you are claiming jobseekers regardless of their illness or disability.
In the mirror today they've said it can't work, but will it stop them from doing it, I don't know, probably not. So I don't hold out to what their agenda really is.
|
possible agendas?
1 - scare people into not claiming for benefit when they entitled to it, making the stigma and downsides very bad. Already many people dont claim when out of work due to stigma but this number is going to increase now.
2 - a way to kick people off benefit, if they refuse to do this.
3 - to save the council money by offloading council manual work onto claimants.
4 - class war, could be no long term plan but rather they just been ********.