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Originally Posted by Ramrod
I suspect that the idea of this is to make proper paid work more appealing than the unpaid option. Get the long term unemployed (who have no intention of working) off their arses and into work.....
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Then make the paid work higher paid, well doh!
I know a few who wont work ever!!. They lost their dole and they still dont work. These are what you called lost causes and legit claimants shouldnt be treated illegaly for this small minority of people. With whats happening now we will get long term legit claimants 100s of thousands of them at the minimum.
The truth is this coalition is managing to cut money by getting people to do council work for £2 an hour.
Self serving people support the idea as they know the alternative is their taxes go up.
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Originally Posted by martyh
Look at it this way Gary ,the welfare system is rapidly aproaching the 200 billion mark ,we have to controll this figure and if that means people will no longer get free money for an indefinate period then tough ,if people think that being asked to clean up their own communities ,dig a few gardens for old folk ,or mow the roadside verges in your area (i seem to remember that you were quite indignant that your LA had stopped doing this because of lack of funds) is being exploited ,then tough ,i suspect that it is their own fear of losing the free ride they have been on for the last 10 years or so that makes people think like that .
Having said that ,if this policy does come to fruition,i strongly suspect that the devoutly workshy will find a way around it ,after all they have managed to work the system to their benefit for years ,and i daresay that some will continue to do it
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you realise the biggest chunk is pensions right?
the 2nd biggest chunk is child related benefits.
neither are to do with these changes.
unemployment benefits even including incapacity benefit is not even 10% of that figure.
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Originally Posted by martyh
oooooh look more histeria ,
actually it's £65+HB(if living away from home)+council tax benefit +free prescriptions +ect ect
1) the gov hasn't said exactly what type of work yet
2) i would imagine that they would be allowed to go to the interview ,i think that's kinda the point realy 
3)not worth answering as the question is ridiculous |
#3 isnt ridicolous but does show you dont really care of the consequences as it isnt you right.
#1 manual labour quoted numerous times.
#2 you can imagine what you want.
and no its just £65, if they refuse to do it, they lose the £65 but dont lose the rest.
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Originally Posted by martyh
absolute rubbish gary ,claiming benefits is most definitely not a right ,it is a privelidge born of a caring society
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its a right when you pay NI and then want to claim contribution based benefits.
the rest is also a right because its declared so in law.