Originally Posted by mersey70

I think you should be clearer that you are quoting prices that must include a phone line at £11.99, XL without a phone line is £29.50. What I am saying is a lower tier customer might be better paying £20 for 2 Sky packs for a wider choice of entertainment and on demand and they would still get the non XL HD channels, less Film 4. I am not comparing XL as these customers are obviously not on XL for one reason or another and will now lose the option of TV Choice. You also seem to be forgetting that non XL customers have to stump up a further £5 a month just for recording facilities. I don't see what is now unique about a non XL package, catch up is widely available anyway so it seems a terrible waste of technology.

For the record the stand alone prices are £12.50 (M+) £17.50 (L) and you would have to add £5 for V+ for both these packages or £29.50 (XL). I personally think for a lower tier customer on Sky's cheapest £19 Variety Pack (which offers far more pay channels and FTA that M+) with a Sky+ HD box with on demand content from Sky1 and Living offers a lot more choice than M+ with V+ (£17.50) and would maybe provide some and possibly more of the on demand content they will lose, but that's just my opinion. I am looking at it from the point of view of who provides the most content for the lower tier subscriber.

I am on record as saying XL is good value but that isn't the point, these customers with the TVC option now have to upgrade to XL just to receive the services they currently have, surely if they wanted XL they would have it anyway.

There would be uproar if Sky pulled a trick like this, let's have some balance.