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Originally Posted by NitroNutter
I have to say whats more amusing than being proved right is how easy it apears to have been for the government to pass the buck of the failings in particular with reference to poor econimics of past governance from all parties onto the general populous and in turn, turn that populous against each other, absolutely remarkable, however it has always been said, never underestimate the stupidity of the general public, I guess on that point I have failed too.
As a disabled couple with 2 teenage children on approximately 19k a year including housing plus low level dla where child benefit is deducted from our suplemetary benefits to be forced to live in fear like we are now is abhorent, if this is a modern civil society then I would hate to meet its less civil counterparts. I thought we won the second world war, must have read that wrong aswell.
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And the relevance of that comment to the current economic situation is?
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
my very cut down thoughts are.
this is an agenda against the poor, particurly the unemployed poor. benefit cuts during a recession is not common sense as people cant be forced into jobs that dont exist, and in particular attacking those who cannot work due to ill circumstances.
cameron has outright lied claiming the richest are taking the biggest hit as % of income when published figures disagree. clearly he is assuming people will just take his word for it. What he means is richest workers pay more as a % than the poorest workers so basically the tories are discounting welfare claimants as people. Similiar to that they disregard the welfare buget a sa budget as the chancellor claimed the budget cuts were reduced by adding more to welfare cuts, he forgot welfare is a budget.
if we were in true financial crisis then things like the nhs we wouldnt be able to afford to ringfence. The fact we can shows they have overhyped the situation to push their agenda. We have an elitist government now.
one has to wonder how thatcher can get admitted for a week with flu, yet anyone else off the street would be laughed at for wanted a bed for flu. in my hospital people dont get admitted even after surgery.
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You are mistaken - they talk about household income (including benefits), not about salaries, so they are including non-working people.
Re the NHS, it is all about balance - what will affect/benefit most people; it's not binary, it's fuzzy.
Re Thatcher - two things; 1) when my mum-in-law had flu (she's 82), she was admitted to hospital, and 2) You will probably find that Mrs T has Private Health, so she is not being a drain on your taxes/the NHS
