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Originally Posted by martyh
The difference though between then and now is hopefully society has moved on and countries don't take over other countries and enslave the population ,what we do now is give various peoples a lifeline via immigration/asylum so that they can live in a better country without fear of being beaten ,raped or killed ,and don't forget that every single immigrant or asylum seeker is doing it on their own free will .We are not forcing anybody to come here or go to france ,germany,ect ,so yes they should embrace our culture,learn our language as well as bringing their own culture
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Obviously it's no different.
A proportion of the indigenous population of the UK, as evidenced by some posting in this thread, have a NIMBY approach to the issue. Contrary to your assertion people resident in the UK, whether by birth, immigration or for the purposes of asylum, are still prone to being beaten, raped or killed and that is a sad fact.
Yes, the vast majority of immigrants come here of their own free will which is why it is somewhat morally reprehensible, given the history as outlined in my previous post combined with Englands long held jockeying as the democratic centre of the universe, for others to seek to impose their will / culture upon those who do so.
To assert that "we are not forcing anybody to come here" is a somewhat disjointed position to adopt. Likewise I very much doubt that anybody willingly "forced" England or France to come and invade their country during the days of the Empire / colonies.
I'd suggest that many of those displaced from theatres where the UK military is active / has an asylum agreement have by proxy been faced with what in reality is a forced relocation to the UK where the alternative is to live in a war zone.
You'll find that immigrants or asylum seekers needing to learn your, or France's, culture is a rather moot point since most of them are already familiar with same courtesy of a past built on colonialism and empire building.
As Santayana is credited with saying "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".