[Juo]

Originally Posted by Stuart

Bit of a strong statement there. What about people who are sterilised for other reasons (be they medical or voluntary)? Are they dehumanised too?.

Probably shouldn't have used dehumanised there, the act of someone getting sterilised voluntary is not the same as waving a carrot infront of someone addicted to drugs, thats the dehumanising part if you will.

She might as well just give them a wrap when they leave the clinic, just because she's giving them some money its all ok? We all know what they are going off to spend it on. Im probably not articulating my point well enough and I certainty dont want to offend anyone thats had the snip voluntarily or for medical reasons

I also feel like we have an extremely hypocritical culture, im sure we all indulge in alcohol and maybe even tobacco, certainly pain killers etc but as soon as someone lights up a spill or takes some MDMA suddenly they are wrong for doing so.... it doesn't make much sense to me.

Obviously some drugs are slightly more moorish than others (and more or less detrimental to a 'users' health), I guess thats where the problem lies, at the end of the day most humans will pick their poison, so I guess what im saying is why do we have a society where we need to be constantly drugged up all the time? (on legal or illegal substances) doesn't anyone else think its just a symptom of a much larger illness?

I can also see a downside. The downside is, of course, what is the addict going to go through if they do get clean and should be in a position to both want and care for a baby properly.

Thats exactly why its annoys me, perhaps a huge incentive for them getting clean in the future could have been having and caring for a child, its not exactly the same but I know the moment my fathers first born was out he quit smoking that day so as not to affect her health. Obviously im not saying quitting smoking and quitting heroin, crack cocaine etc is anywhere near the same but it does give me food for thought.

Personally either way would suit me, the current criminalise the dealers and help the users doesn't seem to work particularly well.

I agree so perhaps its time for a new approach, im just not sure permanent sterilisation is the answer.