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Old 04-10-2010, 20:26   #19
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Re: Gove to tackle schools' 'no touch' rules

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Originally Posted by Maggy J View Post
So you explain to me what discipline is?

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How dare you.I have my own mind on this and I never read the DM...perhaps you have forgotten I'm a secondary school teacher with 36 years of experience and I know full well what the true state of affairs are in schools up and down the country..And you know full well what I meant by physical discipline or restraint.

It's people like you who have ruined education and the status of teachers and severely affected the ability of children to learn in a quiet and calm atmosphere because the teacher is in charge by taking away the few ways that we ever had of maintaining control. It takes a very long time to be effective when you have a riot on your hands..Detention has no effect what eve on the disruptive(they don't attend and just go AWOL) and suspension merely deprives a child of an education without teaching them any self control..

And don't give me any squit about how a teacher should be able to maintain discipline by talking to children in a calm and logical matter.It works for the majority but the small number of disruptive children won't ever respond to that because they haven't bean trained by their parents to do so.
I agree, too much touchy touchy feely feely (but not literally, that is a no no )

The kids get no discipline at home, either because parents don't want to take responsibility, don't know how, or lately because if they do, some doo (yes, i know do is "do", different type of "doo") gooder will quote the child's human rights to never be disciplined.

Impossible task for teachers, but they need something, else, other children's education suffers
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