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Originally Posted by Flyboy
But that's not "discipline."
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So you explain to me what discipline is?
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Originally Posted by Flyboy
My concern is how are they going to, "clarify and shrink that." The two dangers are that they will throw the baby out with the bath water (not an uncommon trait with this particular Secretary of State), or they will do nothing but waste time, effort and money, achieving little more than firing cheap shots at schools, previous govermnents and teachers.
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So, what did you mean by physical discipline?
I am not against it, I just am against the knee-jerk rhetoric playing to the readers of the Daily Heil that every school in the country is going to hell in a handbasket.
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How dare you.I have my own mind on this and I never read the DM...perhaps you have forgotten I'm a secondary school teacher with 36 years of experience and I know full well what the true state of affairs are in schools up and down the country..And you know full well what I meant by physical discipline or restraint.
It's people like you who have ruined education and the status of teachers and severely affected the ability of children to learn in a quiet and calm atmosphere because the teacher is in charge by taking away the few ways that we ever had of maintaining control. It takes a very long time to be effective when you have a riot on your hands..Detention has no effect what ever on the disruptive(they don't attend and just go AWOL) and suspension merely deprives a child of an education without teaching them any self control..
And don't give me any squit about how a teacher should be able to maintain discipline by talking to children in a calm and logical matter.It works for the majority but the small number of disruptive children won't ever respond to that because they haven't been trained by their parents to do so.