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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu
I was driving through Hounslow today, near where l live, and l found to my sadness so many public houses, that have closed down over recent months, and have either been turned in McDonalds, Tesco's or Polish pubs.
I think the start of the demise of these boozers was when they stopped people smoking in them, and that is when trading stopped.(
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Polish pubs? Never heard of them, please give me the details of one so I can go visit
The demise of the boozer is in no small part due to the price differential between drinking at home and drinking in the pub. The smoking ban may have assisted but was, imho, essential and I agreed with it while I smoked as well as now i don't.
People don't want to pay 3.25 for a beer when it'll buy a 4 pack of some stuff that'll strip paint and toast their brain cells. In no small part this is government's fault for allowing alcohol to be too cheap from the off license. That and greedy breweries of course. Ask people why they don't go to the pub, relatively few I suspect would complain about smoking, many will just say they can't or won't pay for it.
I am pleased to say that the 3 pubs in this area that I frequent, 2 chain breweries Fullers and Greene King and an independent one are alive and well

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Originally Posted by Hom3r
I hope not.
I bought a bottle of Vodka (1 ltr) for £20 and if you work it out to 25ml units there are 40 of them which works out to 50p per measure. If you work out what it work cost a pub prices then the £20 bottle would become £80 per litre  , then I would become tee-total. 
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Good - alcohol is a luxury and, in any quantity past a couple of measures, a poison. Only heroin comes close in terms of harm to society in general due to its' cheapness and misuse.
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Originally Posted by gazfan
Can you explain a bit more, please.
Round my way the Weatherspoon pubs serve reasonably priced food, reasonably priced drinks & do not have loud music, fruit machines, etc.
It is, therefore, possible to go with a group of friends, have a decent conversation & not spend too much money.
- what do you consider to be missing from that when compared to a 'traditional' pub?
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Weatherspoons are simply adjusting to the market. People were complaining about the price of going to the pub and Weatherspoon was smart enough to produce a chain of 'Value' pubs serving inedible food and gants urine like beer at ridiculously low prices.
They also were smart enough to adjust their pubs to requirements, quieter ones in some areas, loud and chavvy ones in others.
Their food is an absolute abomination, their drinks are fabulous in that they actually hydrate you they've so little alcohol in them, however they are what many people want - cheap excrement. They are the Tesco Value of pubs, except worse, and people love them for it.