Where abouts are you? I only ask as the further north you go the weaker the signal will be..
If you got hotbird with RAI it's probably the sat at 13e, you need to go a few strong signals to the right of them and very, very slightly up.. Once you get the astra2 sats then you need to use minute movements to get the strongest possible signal (including rotating the LNB)
It takes a lot of time/patience and probably best if you can see a TV whilst you move the dish (not the first time I've moved a TV outside whilst I do the fine tuning
