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Originally Posted by Maggy J
It should be remembered that there are currently many OAPs who living costs are pitiful through no fault of their own and have been the victims of the unforeseen machinations of others.The Maxwell pension fund fiasco comes to mind. 
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i am not familiar with that ?
and i am not having a dig at them (the current oap's) at all just stating that somebody of my age i honestly think would be stupid to expect a state pension
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Originally Posted by gazfan
However, even so, the concept that people should be responsible for making their own arrangements for their retirement should, in my opinion, be more prevalent.
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yeah i agree with you however for the amount of tax we ALL pay through our lifetime it is only fair the state provide is with a few years of rest before we croak it