Oh I totally agree Russ, but that is also a valid side though not one for this thread
Mr Angwy.. (sorry started on the whiskey early so typing is slurred

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Perhaps the fact that people realy on facts is problematic within this society? Instead if people had and stuck to their own viewpoint the facts may be overturned and new and more relevant facts would come into place..
For example the viewpoints on many as to not wanting to pay for this visit may actually become a fact that is more relevant to the exisiting fact that we are paying for the visit
We can but hope...(and some may pray)
Would be interesting to find out what percentage of those who dont want to pay for the visit are catholic?? I presume quite a few and well withing the percentages of the catholic population of the UK