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Originally Posted by papa smurf
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In that same piece a French Muslim buisnessman has pledged to sell property up to one million euros to pay the fine for burhka wearing women, what a surprise that a Muslim man is prepared to pay out nearly a million pounds so as to keep women in this monstoscity.

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Are you saying that because some women like their partners to take nude photos of them they are giving tacit approval to those men who force their partners to have nude photos taken of them? No of course you aren't because it would be a ridiculous notion, just as your notion that muslim women who chose to cover their faces in public are giving tacit approval to men who force their partners to do likewise.
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Come on Xaccers that comparison is pretty weak, having lived in Saudi you are more aware than most that many men enforce the wearing of this degrading garment on their wives, surely you don't believe that every woman in the UK who is wearing one of these things does it of their own free will?
Of course not, there are weak insecure men who will not let their women out of the house unless they are encased from head to toe, as I said earlier women who choose to wear a burhka are actively contributing in keeping these women shackled and cut off from the rest of society.
As far as I'm concerned misplaced feelings of liberty regarding the right to wear a burhka are precisely that, entirely misplaced. In the rush to defend the few who choose to wear it you are making it even harder for the oppressed to get shot of it.
I regard myself as a pretty liberal person, and if this was just a case of religious freedom then fair enough, but you know as well as I this cloak is a cultural garment not religious, so what about the woman who have no choice, do they just grin and bear it because a few women want to make a political statement.