[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by speedfreak

Xaccers the speeding analogy was a good one to the point raised, whenever you speed with your family in the car you are putting them in more danger, theres no argument against that, Citroen suspension or not

Except Arthur didn't say he wouldn't put his family in danger at all.
He said (suprisingly coherant and sensible for a change)

but l would never put my wife and family in danger, through a church cult such as this

It fits so badly that zing had to selectively reference what Arthur said, although selectively referencing facts is a JW tactic so we shouldn't be that suprised I suppose.

Originally Posted by rogermevans

disfeloshiping only occurs rarely and only applies to the one it is done to so thier children partner should not be affected and only applies to talking about the faith and or worship with that person

I knew a JW who was excumunicated for a year becuase she was seduced at the age of 15 by the 17 year old son of one of the Elders. She felt so guilty for having premarital sex she broke down and confessed to her mum (who became a JW because when her daugher was a few months old, left her on the kitchen worktop which she fell off, and felt she needed to spend the rest of her life thanking god for her daughter not dying). Meanwhile, when it all came out the Elder moved his family to France and continued being an Elder there.