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Old 19-05-2010, 14:24   #457
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet View Post
Why would I do that? I posted the story purely because I came across it on Guido's blog. Nice try at making out I go out of my way to dig up dirt, and I am sorry to disappoint.

You'll excuse me if I don't regard going back to a group of constituents, already met during the campaign, to play bingo as being urgent business for a new MP. Interesting that you know better than her why she was doing it though, you must've asked her, given that she had already met them but didn't have time to play bingo with them it sounds like the bingo was a motivation given I'm sure there would have been ample opportunities to meet them not involving a bingo night.



She seems to quite enjoy her bingo too.



Yes I would expect her to go backwards and forwards as her duties may require - that's her job. MPs receive allowances for a second home to make the commons more accesible for a reason, it's not for it to be a guest home when they aren't doing more pressing things like playing bingo.



Nice try but at least some of these grace and favours are owned by trusts and they cannot be sold off or used for any other purpose. They have to be maintained anyway so they are either used or they sit doing nothing.

It's actually good for the economy that these leading ministers take this 'scandalous' benefit - they pay income tax on it. This tax liability is why David Milliband didn't reside in his grace and favour, Carlton Gardens, and Jacqui Smith while Home Secretary didn't take up an official residence so that she could save income tax and, of course, describe her family home as her second home for expenses purposes.



Again - nice try but I commented specifically on Newcastle. What my pointing out the obvious fact that Newcastle would vote for a vomit covered turd if it were standing for Labour has to do with being tribal in any way is completely beyond me - I was talking to someone from Newcastle who wanted to vote Labour and couldn't explain why, a quick check showed it to be staunchly Labour with no real evidence of why the Labour candidates were so superior.

There are several areas that would vote a corpse as a Tory MP, in this case however I was discussing Newcastle, where they are Labour.

There is nothing tribal about being truthful I'm sorry to say. Ignoring that detail it's all about the context. It's that thing you love to take people's words out of to prove your point.
These excuses are all well and good, but they do not detract from the fact that you viewed Guido Fawkes's website; for what? The only reason to do so would be to find some dirt on an MP, particulalry a Labour one, seeing as it their raison d'ĂȘtre. Did he not report on Eric Illsley? Did he mention minister's fourth homes?

---------- Post added at 15:24 ---------- Previous post was at 15:22 ----------

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Originally Posted by Xaccers View Post
Wow flyboy, either you genuinely missed the point, or you've deliberately missed it.
One would think that an MP would know when they were due to be in Parlment for important matters such as being sworn in, and voting for the speaker, and therefore be able to arrange their agendas better.
It's shocking that she hasn't taken her job seriously enough to know these things.

Interesting that you fixate on "vomit covered turd if it had a red rosette" rather than the comments made about the MP.
Now, seeing that you commented on both aspects of this, don't think that your remarks are a bit self defeating?
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