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Old 17-05-2010, 21:30   #30
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Re: Human Rights Act to be retained

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and how exactly is this good news ? i thought it was possibly the most hated piece of euro legislation there was
What's 'euro' about it?

*popcorn*

[and what Matt D says, obviously]

The effect of repeal would be to increase the cost of justice, since we'd still be signatories to the ECHR and UK citizens and indeed anyone else would have the right to take their cases to Strasbourg*, and withdrawing from that would be a) extremely costly and b) send an absolutely cast-iron message to dictators and badasses everywhere that 'don't worry, chaps, we're on your side now with all the torturing and extra-judicial murder'.

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because they don't deserve them of course the right to freedom is taken away from people all the time by judges
Er, yes. If you read the ECHR you'll easily spot the bits that say 'unless such-and-such happens'. The Convention therefore explicitly allows deprivation of liberty *after due process in a court of law*. Actually, quite a lot of the ECHR is intended not to enable criminals to do things but to stop Governments doing things like locking people up without due process. This is generally considered a good thing and why being British means something unique and worthwhile.

* Where, deliciously, there's only one British judge, while under HRA all the judges are British. HRA opponents are therefore advocating having foreigners decide more British court cases.
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