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Old 11-05-2010, 10:36   #1007
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Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll

Excellent comment under that video:

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Boulton really is becoming Murdoch's bitch


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But Labour also offered a referendum, didn't they?
Prior to the election they did offer a referendum on AV. Now they're offering a bill, sans referendum, with a referendum to follow later on other options.

However, they will never get a bill on AV through the commons. The Tories will oppose it because they will be able to say the furthest they are prepared to go is to back a referendum on it, not simply introduce it immediately, and there are plenty of Labour backbenchers, especially in Scotland, who will not back it because they fear the beginning of a slippery slope towards PR that would just about cut Scotland's Labour seats in half and give them to the Tories and the SNP. Labour needs FPTP in Scotland in order to perpetuate the myth that nobody supports the Tories north of the border.

A bill on AV is a promise Labour simply can't deliver, and the Lib Dem negotiating team, if it has any political nous whatsoever, should have seen straight through it immediately. I still think a deal with the Conservatives is the only deal in town and I still think Clegg knows this, but he has been playing chicken with the Tory negotiators to see how many concessions he can get.

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Apparently "Dave" wants to bring back Ian Duncan Smith, David Davis and Michael Howard. What happened to "change?" Along with "Willie" Hague, this is more like "Back To The Future." The public had no interest in them the first time round, why bring them back from the dead now? Is it because he has realised he hasn't got a clue what he is doing?
No, it's because in order to get his right-wing backbenchers not to come out in open revolt at the suggestion of a referendum on AV, he has been forced to throw them some concessions of his own.

If you took a serious interest in British party politics instead of just being a Labour fanboy, you would know and understand that Cameron would never choose to offer any sort of job to David Davis (who, incidentally, never ran an election as party leader. And neither did IDS. So I'm wondering what you meant by 'the public had no interest in them'. Was there some secret general election only you were privy to?)
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