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Old 09-05-2010, 01:39   #703
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Re: 2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll

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Originally Posted by nomadking View Post
If Clegg & co were that concerned about democracy they would insist that any major constitutional issue such as PR should be decided using a referendum and that any England only matters would be decided by only English MPs with a Conservative led English Parliament/administration(ie the Lib-Dems would keep out of votes on England only matters).
Well, first off, the Lib Dems do want a referendum on introducing PR!

[They also want: a written constitution, subject to final approval in a referendum; an In/Out referendum the "next time next time a British government signs up for fundamental change in the relationship between the UK and the EU"; and a referendum on joining the Euro if it is ever determined to be economically worthwhile to do so]

Also, going back to earlier mentions of PR by other people: It is important to note that there is not one single basic "PR" system, such as the "party list" system many use as an example, there are many types, with different pros & cons.

The system favoured by the Lib Dems (and by the Electoral Reform Society, and by Conservative Action for Electoral Reform...) is the Single Transferrable Vote (STV):

http://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/article.php?id=48

http://www.conservativeelectoralreform.org/STV.htm


As for England: The Lib Dems want a more Federal UK, with more decentralisation of power, & want to address the status of England during a Constitutional Convention to draw up a written constitution for the whole UK.

And also... "the Lib-Dems would keep out of votes on England only matters"???? Erm, do you not realise that there are many Lib Dem MPs in ENGLAND?! (my own MP in Cambridge being one of them... Unless Cambridge & other LD-held constituencies have been moved to another nation within the UK without me or anyone else realising? )
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