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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
You seem to expect them to concede everything though and it doesn't work like that. Even if the Lib Dems join Labour they still don't have a majority and it would I suspect be extremely harmful to the Lib Dems to be seen to prop up Gordon Brown. Their position is not as strong as you seem to think it is.
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Err..No I don't. It's clear I don't. I expect them to concede
something. Most people expect the Tories to maintain control over the Economy, Defense, Health, Education, Europe and so on. The Tories are offering nothing and around 23% of us voted Liberal Democrats, not Tory, Lib Dem. There is no right for the Tories to demand a collation because they have got the most seats, they need to offer something that those 23% voted. Such as electoral reform.
Otherwise there is no incentive for the Liberal Democrats to partner with the Tories. If they get nothing then why vote with the Tories. They are under no obligation too.
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At least it was genuine as opposed to Labour's newly discovered interest in electoral reform. Labour are quite simply desperate to stay in power.
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Easy to be be geniune when your offering nothing.
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The Lib Dems (unofficially) seem to disagree with you, a source describing it as interesting and worth considering, not to mention that Cameron has never ruled out a PR referendum and the devil is in the detail and the negotiation. To give the Lib Dems everything straight away would be bad negotiation and the kind of desperation that Labour are reeking of right now.
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Cameron isn't giving anything because the party aren't completely behind him after he failed to secure a majority. Already the mere mention of an inquiry to reform, something Labour did a decade ago, has created hassle.
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It seemed to me to be a measured opening gambit in a weekend of negotiation, nothing more.
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I hope your right.
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
How predictable we all are certain partys didn't win therefore it's "blame the system" rather then accept your party whichever one didn't do enough to win
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We have been blaming the system long before this result, many of us voted Lib Dem to reform the system. The Liberal Democrats actually got a large share of the vote than last time, they have less seats. The system is rubbish.