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Old 02-05-2010, 14:05   #59
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re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup

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Originally Posted by punky View Post
Yes, i'm sure you're in a position to know exactly what the entire circumstances that mean a pub getting shut down. Let me guess - the ex-landlord told you?
I'm a member of the committee of the working men's club that was closed actually.

I think I should know the circumstances seeing as I was there, I talked to the police about it, and made sure I knew exactly why they were shutting it down.

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Originally Posted by punky
Yes, i'm sure you're in a position to know that a pub was closed to down by a PC and not an Inspector.
Seeing as I asked the officer specifically on who's authority, and when he replied "mine" asked got his rank and badge number, yes, I think I was in a position to know that it was closed down by a PC and not an Inspector.

The fact that there was no trouble at the place when they arrived, that the incident happened 20mins before they got there, and there was no signs of anything happening mean that even if it was issued by an inspector it would have been against the legislation as there was no imminent or ongoing threat to public safety.

Also, the small matter of the letter of apology, and compensation for loss of business for having the club with a turnover of near 1mill/year closed at 9pm on a friday night kind of points to me having more than enough knowledge that the police abused their powers to shut it down.

Want to make any more assumptions?

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Originally Posted by foreverwar View Post
This states differently......

This is why, in certain cities (Glasgow, for example) football team strips are now allowed in quite a few pubs, and strangely enough, the All Sports Bar in St. Helier doesn't allow football shirts.

And it's nothing new - from 2002 (which explains why).
Again, knowingly allows is not the same as failing to actively prevent.

Once something happens, you have a legal duty to react. You don't have a legal duty to profile your patrons to ensure you don't let in anyone that may or may not at some point in the future cause trouble.
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