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Old 30-04-2010, 13:12   #165
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Re: Mansfield teacher arrested over All Saints pupil assault

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Originally Posted by alferret View Post
He didnt attempt to murder the kid, because murder in the eyes of the law is premeditated http://www.thefreedictionary.com/premeditated, so yea if you go hammer in hand and planned to then that would be murder, he didnt so thats why the charge was attempted manslaughter which is a different deffinition http://www.thefreedictionary.com/manslaughter .


No one can take away whats happend or even know what was really going through Mr Harveys head at the time, but he was a well liked and respected member of the school team.
Premeditation can be as short as three seconds. He dragged the boy into another classroom and shouted, "die, die, die," whilst beating him around the head with a three kilogram weight. That says to me that he wanted him to die and that he had time to consider the act, as a reasonable amount of time had passed for him to think about killing the child. The man was charged with attempted murder, so clearly the police and the CPS believed there was sufficient evidence to support such a charge.

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Not really Flyboy. He didnt try anything and the fetish part is my assumption. Its needed in schools, kids know that can get away with anything and the worse that can happen is exclusion. Hell when I was a kid if I knew I could do what I want and the most I could be punished was to be told to stay away from school for a few weeks I could have been a lot more disruptive and a major pain in the schooling system. But I knew the limits of what I could do because the punishment was there. The slipper never really hurt but a ruler across the knuckles or 6 of the cane across the arse was a deterant.
There is and have never been a place for physical punishment of a child in a school. Your rather flippant, although poignant, allusion to sexual predilection for such things, was all too common in some teachers, others just took pleasure in inflicting pain and having total control over someone.
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