Cable Forum - View Single Post - A few thruths about Virgin media engineers (Kelly Communication ones!)

scene99 · 26-04-2010, 11:51

Minimum wage is something like £5.80 an hour. So an 8 hour day gives you a day rate of about £45.

With Kellys you start at 7am so if you get to 5pm, as you almost always do, you are down to £4.50 an hour - well below minimum. And that's not considering when the last job keeps you there until 7 or 8pm, which happens all the time.

If you do 9 to 5 that's a 40 hour week. If you do up to 8 hours on Saturday that's your 48 hour week.

Kellys force you to work the 6th day and this will always push you over the 48 hours - and you will still be on the £45 day rate.

You get a van early and the tools, which you have to pay them for, but you don't get a PDA right away so, instead of doing the hits straight away at an install you have to ring VM and hang about on the phone - and half the time you get one of the idiots who refuses to send the hit and tells you to call your TM. So a simple migrate turns into a 3 hour job.

You are forced into this scheme where they have outsourced their admin and they charge you a fee for sorting out your pay, and you HAVE to have this every 2 weeks instead of once a month.

It takes ages to sort out your UTR to get you to the lower rate and their admin, who you are paying out of your own pocket remember, will take a couple of pay runs to get it sorted. At £40%, with admin fees, half your money, which is not that good as we said, is gone already - and look at what you had to do to get it!

The "SELF EMPLOYED" thing is something they force you into for their benefit, it isn't something most people, if any, would opt for, especally if you don't really know how it works. They tell you that you are self employed then assign you to a TM who is your "boss" and starts making demands of you.

Bottom line - avoid Kellys. You can make as much or more money on min wage in any P/T job from waiting tables to shelf stacking while you leave your days free to apply and go to interviews for a real job.

26-04-2010, 11:51	#65
scene99 Inactive Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3	Kellys Minimum wage is something like £5.80 an hour. So an 8 hour day gives you a day rate of about £45. With Kellys you start at 7am so if you get to 5pm, as you almost always do, you are down to £4.50 an hour - well below minimum. And that's not considering when the last job keeps you there until 7 or 8pm, which happens all the time. If you do 9 to 5 that's a 40 hour week. If you do up to 8 hours on Saturday that's your 48 hour week. Kellys force you to work the 6th day and this will always push you over the 48 hours - and you will still be on the £45 day rate. You get a van early and the tools, which you have to pay them for, but you don't get a PDA right away so, instead of doing the hits straight away at an install you have to ring VM and hang about on the phone - and half the time you get one of the idiots who refuses to send the hit and tells you to call your TM. So a simple migrate turns into a 3 hour job. You are forced into this scheme where they have outsourced their admin and they charge you a fee for sorting out your pay, and you HAVE to have this every 2 weeks instead of once a month. It takes ages to sort out your UTR to get you to the lower rate and their admin, who you are paying out of your own pocket remember, will take a couple of pay runs to get it sorted. At £40%, with admin fees, half your money, which is not that good as we said, is gone already - and look at what you had to do to get it! The "SELF EMPLOYED" thing is something they force you into for their benefit, it isn't something most people, if any, would opt for, especally if you don't really know how it works. They tell you that you are self employed then assign you to a TM who is your "boss" and starts making demands of you. Bottom line - avoid Kellys. You can make as much or more money on min wage in any P/T job from waiting tables to shelf stacking while you leave your days free to apply and go to interviews for a real job.