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Originally Posted by foreverwar
That story was in the Times yesterday as well.
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Thanks!
Well I have no problem with Labour lurching to the left. Should make them nicely unelectable and have them lose their more centrist supporters to the Lib Dems.
It's quite amusing the parallel between UK and USA. In the USA there's a bunch of wingnuts on the right pulling the GOP (Republicans) further to the right while centrists are freaked out, here in the UK we seem to have a bunch of Union-powered wingnuts on the left pulling New Labour who at least gave lip service and some policy consideration to being centre-left to the hard left.
It's both amusing and tragic when you have the Dark Lord advocating the more centrist point of view while the incumbent Prime Minister's charade of being centrist is washed away more and more to reveal an old school socialist whose views and beliefs do indeed belong in the past.
Still a minority will still happily vote for this. I should say they won't vote for 'this' as they have no idea what they're voting for they just see 'Labour' on the ballot paper and mark it. Labour could advocate killing of all first-born children and large swathes of Wales and the North would still vote for them. Of course on the flip side the Tories could advocate similar and would still get votes from some but purely my opinion Labour have a larger base of safe seats and FPTP favours them quite heavily at the moment as it's out of date with the population and unfair, especially in Wales.
NB:
Wales - 40MPs, 2.9mill population = 72,500 population / MP
England - 539MPs, 51.5mill population = 104,600 population / MP
Scotland - 59MPs, 5.06mill population = 85,762 population / MP
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu
It seems that some members feel that the Tories will do a better job if they get into power, please remember that the Tories only think of one thing, and that is saving money for themself, its like at the moment there are business's complaining about an increase in NI payments, two reasons for this, one who says the Tories won't do this, two, the big business's are probabely Tory voters anyway.
Surely this country does not want to go back to the Thatcher days, and this is what will happen, she still has some punch in the Tory circle, all this hype from Cameron about we will do this and that, remember what Thatcher said, and this country went through hell.
Like in one borough of London, one side of the road the poll tax was £300 per year and on the other it was £500 per year, and every person had to pay it. This what the Tories will do to find ways of saving money on services, and the public paying more.
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I would speculate poll tax isn't set for a return and Council Tax is set at a Borough level, everyone in each Borough and in the same band pays the same, please try again. If you could supply a citation for where poll tax was so granular it was set at postcode level that would be appreciated, I have never heard of such a thing and as far as I am aware it was administered in a similar manner to Council Tax.
If you could please let me know where you think all this money that will be saved will be going. I would presume that it would be going to paying off the national debt but if you know otherwise that'd be appreciated.
I would speculate that business don't like the NI increase for the same reasons I don't - it'll cost us money and isn't necessary.
Well Arthur, just for you and courtesy of
Guido here's the massive cuts that the Tories have planned for this financial year:
