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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
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Just to address the above, the contributions would be absolutely compulsory, and part of the minimum income guarantee being in 'electronic food stamps' is, yes, somewhat authoritarian which I have a distaste for but ensures that people eat and will improve welfare in homes where the welfare state is misused. For cases where it would not be misused I would hope it would be viewed as a simple way to pay for groceries.
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That's fair enough and laudable, but I still don't like the authoritarian aspect of it .
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The compulsory insurance schemes don't require high rates of taxation - Canadians and Americans pay less tax than we do and North America is where I plagiarised the ideas from
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Hang on. The USA (I don't know about Canada) has compulsory health and employment insurance? I don't think so. What was all the recent noise about universal US health care about then? IMO it was about the fact that providing these for low earners will cost the high earners disproportionately (which I think is fair). If you want to look at the cost of providing these things at decent levels (which I don't think the US provides), I think you're better off looking at Western European states like Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Scandinavia etc.