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Originally Posted by Damien
What makes you believe the Tories though? I agree with you on Labour but the Tories were hardly a friend of public services in the 80's and they seem to be promising both savings and no reduction in public services which doesn't make sense to me?
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Who mentioned the Tories? I didn't. The Tories of the 80's aren't in the race so far as I can see, whereas the New Labour of the present (and the last 13 years) is. However all will become a little clearer over coming weeks as some flesh has to be put on the bones wrt spending plans, budget cuts etc. Whilst none of the parties have my full confidence, New Labour started lying to us in 1997 and haven't stopped since so they won't be getting my vote no matter what else happens. It's up to us all to make our own decisions as to who we believe, who's changed and who hasn't... Possibly even just choose the lesser of the evils..
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
Aww bless, did I make you feel all offended by accusing the PM of being arrogant with his speech? I thought it was quite appropriate given his previous record to suggest he was being arrogant. As in his record of being chancellor / PM for 13 years and racking up debt through excessive public services spending even while increasing government tax take of GDP. Perhaps deluded would be a better word if arrogant isn't appropriate, though it's good to see them basically admitting they've wasted a ton of money, these efficiency savings must be coming from somewhere and given the previous efficiency reviews they've done and the past 13 years they've had to make things more efficient I guess they must have made a brand new set of inefficiencies to cut in order to avoid harming services while reducing the deficit to a mere 6% of GDP in 4 years.
Saying that though it is a touchstone on things when even you have no defence of Gordon Brown's speech beyond calling Osborne and Cameron names.
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Not much new there then...
