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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
That may be true in some parts of the world but here it isn't, we have good content release dates relative to a lot of the rest of the world. When that was the major issue it wasn't such an issue, now that a new movie is released to the cinema and has hundreds of thousands of people too cheap to buy a ticket to go see it so they download it or an album is released and is downloaded wholesale that becomes an issue.
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release dates we have are slow enough, anything even 1 day behind america is slow. But to be honest cinema figures are good, there is no signs of piracy affecting cinema viewing, I hardly know anyone who downloads movies and never goes to the cinema. Most piracy seems to be tv shows and music. People still download movies of course but they still also go to the cinema. Let us not forget that these companies are making healthy profits in a recession, they not on the brink of going bust.
tv shows can be months behind.
some content never gets released at all and is america only.
An example I can give as well is I went on the f1 website expecting to be able to buy some previous season dvd's as well as onboard footage, it turns out only the previous season gets made available and the rest is gone. So if I either have to go without or find somewhere to download it.
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry
Simply not true. The #1 reason people don't buy media is because technology, the internet and ISPs enabled them to acquire stuff for free. The internet afforded everybody a global, non territorially bound, opportunity to avail of media simultaneously. The fact that the media companies didn't react to this opportunity immediately (due in no small part to contractual obligations already in place between themselves, artists, producers, studios, retailers and distributors of both music and movies) is not an excuse for people to wantonly infringe the copyright of those artists / holders.
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As I said to ignition its my belief (I may be wrong) that the vast majority of people who 'only' download content and never buy would not buy it legit anyway, they would either go without or buy an illegal hard copy, or simply even copy offline via usb sticks etc.
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry
Many of those aforementioned contracts (particularly those of a distribution nature) are coming to their term end and new arrangements / terms are / have been negotiated for global release days as opposed to the old territorial models. These changes, particularly in relation to "catalogue", will become evident in the coming months. I wonder what the "pirates" excuse will be then?
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Lets wait and see if and when this happens the affect on the market, for sure the regional marketing is out dated and not helping matters, however piracy will never ever cease to exist, to expect it to do so is very unrealistic, its like thinking one day no one will ever take drugs etc.
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry
"Old content" has, by it's very nature, already been made available. The fact that you cannot get certain content in a certain format is a result of contractual obligations having been met by one or more parties to an agreement which has expired. If sufficient numbers of fans lobbied the licencees of the material they might, ordinarily, have been able to secure e a re-release in a new format (say cd). However, given the very nature of what you describe as a reason for demand (ie. illegal downloading / piracy) who, in their right mind, would risk such a venture?
Ebay will turn up almost anything of an "old content" nature. However, speaking as an avid collector of rare vinyl, one might reasonably be expected to pay not inconsiderable sums for certain pressings of "old content". The payment for anything on the part of most internet "pirates" is an alien concept to them. Hence their voracious appetite for "all you can eat for free" (at someone else's expense, obviously).
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I know some cases of where people sold old content on ebay and ebay were forced to remove the adverts by the copyright holders, even second hand copies were blocked. Examples are the old nightmare children tv show and prisoner cell block h an old australian drama.
I have no objection to people been dealt with fairly for copyright infringement, what I am against is special laws been given to copyright holders that dont apply to everyone else. Cutting people of without a court order and 'real' proof is not right. What is stopping these media companies using the courts like everyone else?
is it because?
(a) the 'REAL' financial losses are way lower than projected figures so as such the legal costs dont make sense.
(b) the evidence used is unreliable and probably would not be admissable in court in a lot of cases.