[ashgray]

"then the people who have left the c of e because they object to gay vicas and civil partnerships don't deserve to be a member of any church and the c of e is better without them
and they probably have asked the "indians" what they think and the majority of the "indians" have said they approve of gay vicas and civil partnerships"

Some of these people you say don't deserve to be members of the c of e have worshipped for 50 years and more.they have paid there due's to the church every week.
in my opinion they deserve to be in the c of e a million times more than a couple of gays who wants to get married in church just because they can and to say up yours to people like me.

And no ordinary members of the congregation have ever been consulted on these issuse.they have been told its going to happen and theres nothing you can do about it.

its just another case of politicians poking there nose where its not wanted because they can't leave anything alone.