[howardmicks]

Yes it is annoying,but really we should be used to it by now.Vm as tv providers are a totally joke and always will be,All they are clearly bothered about is broadband.As for these fools on here telling us to stop moaning they are probably peeps who have been upgraded already and dont care about anybody else,What is happening at the moment regarding promising us hd and then not delivering on there promise is nothing new from vm and will never change.They will never be able to compete will sky whilst the current clueless management are running this cowboy operation,We just after except it or change providers.We are going to end up going thru this cowboy expierience when tivo arrives because true to form vm will cock up again