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Originally Posted by sniper007
Interesting thread. So basically Nagra 3 rollout involves new smart cards which will stop cable pirates in their tracks? I don't understand how pirates get hold of their dodgey STBs. Is it usually originally down to a breach internally with Virgin employees selling STBs? Or on the black market are there STBs that mimic a virgin box? Also, how many pirates are out there? Are we talking say 100,000 in the UK?
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It's down to two things:
1) Dodgy boxes. These don't necessarily come from VM employees (although some do). They sometimes come customers who, having had the service legitimately, stop it for some reason. They *should* send the box back, but VM can be a little lax in enforcing this, so a lot of boxes end up on ebay.
2) There are boxes out there that are designed to emulate virgin boxes. We do not allow discussion of specifics about these boxes (such as where/how to get them).
I don't know how many people pirate digital TV. but I do know that it is enought that it caused On Digital to think their PPV football service was far more profitable than it actually was, and caused them to bid far more than they could afford for the premiership footy rights, which ultimately caused them to fold.
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Wow. I'm shocked. I just did some googling and came accross "another forum" shall we say. It's like the people there think that Virgin (they refer to them as "Vermin") owe them something for nothing. It absolutely fills me with rage. They talk in " txt spk innit m8 " and there is a guy on there that was/is actually contemplating moving from Leeds to Manchester in an attempt to keep recieiving "free tv". Another person on there back in December complained publically that he had just bought LCD flat screens for his kids (one each) for Xmas and that they wouldn't be happy.
Absolute **** on there. Why should we all pay for services they receive free? Does this really spell the end for them and when will the whole country be on the new cards as I have not got a letter about it yet at all.
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I think I know the forum you are referring to. It's not a nice place.