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Old 01-03-2010, 19:25   #56
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Re: BT Open Up Ducting - Look To Use Virgin's

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet View Post
What?

BT have been wholesaling out to Sky since the launch of Sky Broadband - it is using BT products. Openreach products to reach the LLU areas and Wholesale products to get to those that aren't connected to unbundled exchanges.

VM have had access to the extra 50% of the country via BT's wholesale products, how do you think Chris is using Virgin National?

I have no idea what you are trying to say or what you are talking about with regard to Tivo, etc, you appear to have not noted the various developments with regards to structural separation of BT and wholesale access to the BT customer base.

If you think Virgin are going to suddenly cable an extra 40% of the country you're simply wrong, especially given Pierre seems to think that the BT assets are so low value. VM are trialling expansion of their network via BT's network and fibre to the cabinet using existing BT products.

VM magically paying their debts quicker is also somewhat incorrect, VM would be spending a not inconsiderable amount of money developing the network with no guarantee of good returns on any investment so would be incurring further debt doing such a deployment.
You have completely and entirely misunderstood my post.

I am aware BT already wholesale to Sky! I am aware Sky are offering their BB through BT's network i'm not that dumb. I was talking about when BT build their fibre network. I'm not interested in Chris and VM national. I am talking about when BT release fibre to the other 40% of the country which is currently not 'fibred up'

What i am trying to say about Tivo is when they and VM team up and Tivo comes back into this country this is going to be a big advancement over what pvrs are currently available on VM and Sky. Coupled with IPTV, internet ondemand delivery and what VM already have in their ondemand portfolio is going to make it groundbreaking in this country. Like i have said before Tivo dominates the US market for Pvr's, Taiwan, Australia etc. It is the PVR to have.

I never mentioned VM were going to cable an extra 40% of the country, again you missconsrewed my post. I was talking about when BT wholesale their fibre network to their competitors. Vm will have a possible 40 extra percentage of the country and they won't have the maitenance costs either. Therefore vm will have a big influx of customers that will drive up revenue for them. I never said vm would 'magically' pay off all their debt. This will take years but the customer reach is going to expand massively and that will certainly help with VM's burdening debt.

I'm sorry if i wasn't clear enough.
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