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m419 · 01-02-2010, 16:36

They have probably made a deal with the orange-T-Mobile group to offer discounted termination fees from the Virgin Media network.

T-Mobile-Orange won't mind this because it boosts there market share (If) the techinique works. More subscribers means more revenue.

T-Mobile work better with Virgin Media in comparison to other phone firms, BT for example is always having disputes with T-Mobile as seen in consultations opened by Ofcom. And most of this is about termination rates.

A similar offering cheap calls to mobiles could be by BT to Hutchison 3G(3 Network) mobiles. Why do I think that? Because BT and 3 are on this thing about getting rid of mobile termination rates and to just prove a point, BT and 3 could copy this idea. We've already seen 3 offer free 3 to 3 calls as well as Free voicemail and Free Skype to Skype calls. Skype on 3 handsets can be used just like a normal voice call. So calling 3 handsets via skype either from a computer or another 3 handset is completely free.

Its a good move by 3 as the sound quality and performance of Skype on 3 handsets is perfect, however, it makes me laugh because 3 and BT are campaigning against high termination rates when BT has the highest telephone line rental and 3 has the highest mobile termination fees on UK mainland.

3 charge around 5p per minute termination fees, Virgin Media charges us nearly 20p per minute plus nearly 10p connection to call 3 phones, BT charge around the same. Pay As You Go services providers such as Orange charge 20p per minute. So the people who are really ripping us off is all the other. There is no reason to charge such high fees anymore and 5p per minute charged by 3 is nothing in comparison to what other service providers are charging us. The other networks charge around 3p to 4p termination rates and the other providers charges as much as 20p per minute for call such numbers, termination fees are nothing really, its just the service providers we use for calling mobiles charging us nearly 4 times as much as the termination fee!!!

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m419 Inactive Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Services: BT Broadband,BT Anytime calls,Sky entertainment extra HD,Vodafone pay monthly Posts: 1,512	Re: Free VM landline to VM mobile calls They have probably made a deal with the orange-T-Mobile group to offer discounted termination fees from the Virgin Media network. T-Mobile-Orange won't mind this because it boosts there market share (If) the techinique works. More subscribers means more revenue. T-Mobile work better with Virgin Media in comparison to other phone firms, BT for example is always having disputes with T-Mobile as seen in consultations opened by Ofcom. And most of this is about termination rates. A similar offering cheap calls to mobiles could be by BT to Hutchison 3G(3 Network) mobiles. Why do I think that? Because BT and 3 are on this thing about getting rid of mobile termination rates and to just prove a point, BT and 3 could copy this idea. We've already seen 3 offer free 3 to 3 calls as well as Free voicemail and Free Skype to Skype calls. Skype on 3 handsets can be used just like a normal voice call. So calling 3 handsets via skype either from a computer or another 3 handset is completely free. Its a good move by 3 as the sound quality and performance of Skype on 3 handsets is perfect, however, it makes me laugh because 3 and BT are campaigning against high termination rates when BT has the highest telephone line rental and 3 has the highest mobile termination fees on UK mainland. 3 charge around 5p per minute termination fees, Virgin Media charges us nearly 20p per minute plus nearly 10p connection to call 3 phones, BT charge around the same. Pay As You Go services providers such as Orange charge 20p per minute. So the people who are really ripping us off is all the other. There is no reason to charge such high fees anymore and 5p per minute charged by 3 is nothing in comparison to what other service providers are charging us. The other networks charge around 3p to 4p termination rates and the other providers charges as much as 20p per minute for call such numbers, termination fees are nothing really, its just the service providers we use for calling mobiles charging us nearly 4 times as much as the termination fee!!!