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Old 25-12-2009, 00:55   #5
zorba
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Re: netgear router broke OR virgin internet moved goalposts?

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Originally Posted by Kymmy View Post
Can I suggest resetting the router to defaults is the way to go, then restarting the modem, then the router, then the PC and see if that works

---------- Post added at 23:25 ---------- Previous post was at 23:23 ----------

As you've proved it's not the modem I've moved this thread to networking
Ok, first time for everything. Reset the router, got stuck with default of 192.168.1.1, but online manual resolved that. Now have a laptop plugged into the router and able to configure router that way.

When I went to config page of router, it detected it was a virgin run of config and put me in a wizard which tried to detect internet type and then came back and said it was STATIC !! (is this correct, always thought these home internets connections were DHCP, or am i stuck in ADSL world...)

Anyways, it then asked me for the static IP, DNS server etc.?
I was clueless about these so came out of that wizard and logged into normal admin. Just about then I noticed the internet LED on the router went a magical green. I found the WAN settings in config. It had:

>Does your internet connection require a login?
NO

>Internet IP address:
USE STATIC IP
>which is?
empty-empty-empty-empty
>subnet?
ditto
>gateway?
ditto

>DNS Server address?
Use these servers
empty
empty

If I try and accept these settings, it complains about all the empty addresses

however, green light is ON, so it can't be all bad

but... couldn't connect to internet from that laptop

OK, so I'm searching for the missing addresses

1)
in router config, went to router status and found these..under internet port
IP = 10.0.0.X (last digit obscured for obvious reasons!)
DHCP=fixed ip
subnet=255.0.0.0
DNS=...

IP looks like a local IP, but then again subnet indicates WAN ... ?

2) plugged cable from cable modem back into PC, ran ipconfig and got:
IP=XX.7.125.ZZZ
subnet=255.255.252.0
gateway=82.7.AAA.1

these look more like what i need
this is what pc is addressed as when connected to the CM and getting internet, so this is presumably what the router should be set to ?

AN interesting experiment would be to cycle the CM and see if the PC still has same or different IP address - then we'll confirm for sure if CM is handing out static or dynamic IP's (well, we will if its different)

any tips, pls fire ahead

---------- Post added at 00:24 ---------- Previous post was at 00:18 ----------

I rebooted the CM, and ran > ipconfig on the pc

all settings are as before, including IP address

COULD still be DHCP and w've just been served the same details as before of course...
but lets try putting these into the router and see what happens...

---------- Post added at 00:28 ---------- Previous post was at 00:24 ----------

@ popper

thanks for your post man!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
its wired up
cable<>WAN-in-CM-RJ45-out<>WAN-in-router-LANwhateverNo-out<>other PCs

if your first PC has a second ethernet card fitted or you have an old C&W supplyed USB2 blue Ethernet dongle handy, and you still cant get the WAN part of the router working right, then as a temp thing id wire up the PC with two working ethernet cards to act as the house router.

you do need to keep this MasterPC1 powered and running OC for others to go through it and use it , but thats a small price to pay (assuming your pre pay meter is topped up to last OC) today, tomorrow, and boxing day to keep your family happy i guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

good call IF other pcs were in same room or wirable up, but they aint :-(

trying to getmy head arund yr 2nd section, in between trying these IP's out

---------- Post added at 00:46 ---------- Previous post was at 00:28 ----------

ok neither of those sets of IP address are good for the router...

the first set get accepted, and the green "internet" LED stays on, but cna't get internet in the browser

the second set don't even pass validation as there is no default gateway.....

---------- Post added at 00:55 ---------- Previous post was at 00:46 ----------

@ popper

>> CM-RJ45-out<>Ethernet1-MasterPC1-Ethernet2<> LAN1-in-router-LAN2 etc to other PC's as now.

Ok, so now we're using the PC as a router and the router as a switch?

looking at this and your first section again, it COULD have worked, using the WIRELESS function of the router to serve the other PCs I guess, so sorry if first reaction seemed harsh ;-)
But, and big but, only one ethernet on that PC. There IS a wireless card though, but missing presumed dead (never use it, can't remember why but probably a reason - mind you I noticed a green LED flashing on it last time i was round back of pc, so maybe some life there?)


>> you can run a liveCD router in a virtualbox configured for these ethernet cards directly, or just do the simple thing and run a simple windows network wizard to turn the CM connected ethernet card on masterPC1 WAN wired into your CM RJ45-out and the other one connected to the working LAN part of the router or an old switch if you have one handy for now, should take you about 10 minutes if you have the ethernet cards and PC already handy...

you lost me wiht "liveCD router in a virtualbox" but I think I understand the other simple option - is this what is called creating a bridge ? (dim and distant memory of doing something like this before, to get a open source s/w VPN to work). OC = over christmas, presumably?

anyways happy xmas folks, hope santa rewards your generousity tonight ;-)
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