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TakeCare · 13-12-2009, 00:26

Hi Flyboy,

Am I allowed to add these links? Not sure of the protocol here.

Hope this helps.I cover mostly the disability benefits but asked someone I work alongside to do this.Just holler if any more questions.Its not just those with mental health problems but some with severe autism too.

PDF file on this link from CAB that is well worth a read

This is re Cancer patients too

ESA

I’ll try to explain ESA a bit better. To campaign to improve it is so hard basically because no one understands it and it confuses people.

The principle is that everyone should be helped back to work. Now that would be a good principle if you said everyone can have maximum help to get back to work if this is what they want. It is a great idea that all people, however ill can try and get back to work if they want to.

But the government have linked the help to the bullying. You can’t have help without accepting sanctions. This linkage is artificial and unnecessary. It’s because they don’t have any new ideas to make it really possible to get sick people in to real work so they are making it all a problem in the mind of the sick person and giving them CBT to get better motivated. It’s not in their mind – they face real problems.

The government tell the charities that the private contractors won’t bother to help people unless they have the control of sanctions over them. They imagine people coming along all enthusiastic and then backing down when it gets too hard. Probably and hopefully so. Sick people should have the courage to have a go and the safety of knowing they can back out. Private contractors can’t be bothered with this. Too frustrating for them. Most of them used to be salesman. Imagine selling double glazing and then people having second thoughts. Slap a sanction on them.

Obviously the sick person under this system would be far better claiming not to be able to do or try anything. It just isn’t safe to take a risk and sign up if you might not be strong enough to follow through.

So when it gets to the crunch – who is to decide if the sick person wants to back off from something if they are not trying hard enough? The government gives all the discretion and decision making to bureaucrats. This decision has to be returned to the sick person. What is the point of giving them dignity and control over care packages and then bullying them in to back to work activity they feel they can’t cope with.

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TakeCare Inactive Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 35	Re: disability living allowance Hi Flyboy, Am I allowed to add these links? Not sure of the protocol here. Hope this helps.I cover mostly the disability benefits but asked someone I work alongside to do this.Just holler if any more questions.Its not just those with mental health problems but some with severe autism too. PDF file on this link from CAB that is well worth a read This is re Cancer patients too ESA I’ll try to explain ESA a bit better. To campaign to improve it is so hard basically because no one understands it and it confuses people. The principle is that everyone should be helped back to work. Now that would be a good principle if you said everyone can have maximum help to get back to work if this is what they want. It is a great idea that all people, however ill can try and get back to work if they want to. But the government have linked the help to the bullying. You can’t have help without accepting sanctions. This linkage is artificial and unnecessary. It’s because they don’t have any new ideas to make it really possible to get sick people in to real work so they are making it all a problem in the mind of the sick person and giving them CBT to get better motivated. It’s not in their mind – they face real problems. The government tell the charities that the private contractors won’t bother to help people unless they have the control of sanctions over them. They imagine people coming along all enthusiastic and then backing down when it gets too hard. Probably and hopefully so. Sick people should have the courage to have a go and the safety of knowing they can back out. Private contractors can’t be bothered with this. Too frustrating for them. Most of them used to be salesman. Imagine selling double glazing and then people having second thoughts. Slap a sanction on them. Obviously the sick person under this system would be far better claiming not to be able to do or try anything. It just isn’t safe to take a risk and sign up if you might not be strong enough to follow through. So when it gets to the crunch – who is to decide if the sick person wants to back off from something if they are not trying hard enough? The government gives all the discretion and decision making to bureaucrats. This decision has to be returned to the sick person. What is the point of giving them dignity and control over care packages and then bullying them in to back to work activity they feel they can’t cope with.