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Old 07-12-2009, 21:00   #33
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Re: Please Help Me To Save Lives

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Originally Posted by Flyboy View Post
[Snip] you still have very little understanding of residential lettings regulations.
Ok then what is the link/url to residential lettings regulations?

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Residential lettings are carried out by commercial organisations, as well as private individuals.
Yes some are done by the owner/landlord, and some are done by letting agents.

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Bed and breakfasts fall under very different regulations to lettings.
B&B is under the same as HMO's

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HMOs are residential lettings.
Yes and so is B&B's

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Your link to "Fire safety law and guidance documents for business" is for non-domestic buildings (commercial properties, offices and factories etc.)
No, it is for HMO's as well plus B&B's see quote below.

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The FSO applies to all non-domestic premises in England and Wales, including the common parts of blocks of flats and houses in multiple occupation (HMOs). The law applies to you if you are:
[My Bold] So it does applie to HMO's and B&B's as well, quote from top of page on Fire safety law and guidance documents for business.

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and the furniture and furnishings regulations relate to furniture manufactured after nineteen eighty-eight; trust me there not many residential letting properties with furniture that old.
The old furniture 9 times out of 10 is from a okshon, but all furniture in a B&B & HMO most have the Fire Resistant lable on it, if the lable comes off the item must be replaced, that is the lawe now!

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As I have said, ALL my properties exceed current regulations as far as fire safety is concerned,
I am sorrry but you are wrong see your quote below.

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or that they don't bother to replace the batteries in the smoke alarms, they run the risk of losing their tenancy (rather a homeless tenant than a dead tenant).
[My Bold] You are breaking the law you most have a full Fire Alarm System plus Fire Extinguishers and Emergency Lighting in a HMO or a B&B

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if these regulations change, so will my properties.
I have the sneaky feeling that you have the old landlord pack.

From landlord property standards pdf
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Fire Safety:
Kitchen Doors - half hour fire check doors with a self-closing device must be fitted to all kitchens to prevent the spread of fire. Where the kitchen is part of the dining room a fire door must be fitted to the living room doorway to provide a protected means of escape for the bedrooms.

Means of Escape - No bedroom should lead directly off the kitchen or kitchen/diner. Open plan ground floors in houses must have a protected means of escape for bedrooms. Bedrooms must open onto a landing or hallway i.e. they cannot be accessed by going through another room. If the only exit from the property is directly through the kitchen an alternative means of escape must be provided. If the Unit is a flat or a maisonette in a block where a communal staircase services more than one property, the entrance door to the flat must be a half-hour fire resistant door and be self closing.

Smoke detectors - In a house with two floors two smoke detectors must be fitted, one to the ceiling in the hallway outside the kitchen and the second on the landing. Houses with more floors require a minimum of one smoke detector on each landing. Flats need one smoke detector in the hall or common area of each unit. Smoke detectors must be hard wired mains supplied with battery back up, linked together where there is more than one, A carbon monoxide tester should be provided.

Smoke detectors/heat detectors installed must be to the Council’s current standard “The Fire Angel” detectors. (The heat detectors are EI Electronics model E1 164, the smoke alarms are EI Electronics model EI 166).
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I do not scrimp or penny pinch when it comes to the safety of my tenants,
I would hope not!

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You have no idea whatsoever what to takes to install an automatic fire suppression system and you really, really should have found out more about them and the regulations that cover them, before you embarked on this crusade.
Oh you are so wrong.


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One of the properties I own is a small block of six flats, which also includes a sprinkler system. I was quite pleased when I bought it and asked a number of specialist firms about how much it would cost to upgrade it to something more modern and more aesthetically pleasing.
You can get the Fire Sprinkler heads replaced and keep the old System see Eclipse Fire Protection for help.


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The figures I suggested were based on that estimated cost. I notice although you said my estimated quotation was, "a load of Rubbish," but failed to come up with a alternative cost.
As I said see Eclipse Fire Protection for a quote, or see the Fire Sprinkler Association for a quote.

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If you can get it from someone for considerably cheaper, please let me know, I would very interested in talking to them.
Please see above.
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